Late Summer Garden Attempt

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Watching Mark's videos on YT the past two weeks has inspired me to try a late summer garden for the first time.
After building up the bed with odds & ends from the barn and a store-bought compost/manure/soil/sand mix I planted some yellow wax beans and snow peas on Aug. 15.
Two weeks later, and they're already reaching out for something to climb on!

I'm working on another area, 10' x 10' in the back yard that gets full sun and planted more of the same plus beets.
These are planted in rows north/south because I already had a small area worked up there. For the rest of the planting, I think I should plant rows east/west?

Here's how I layered that area: (I know it's not up to Mark's standards, but... I'm a noob :p)
First layer, thick cardboard to keep down the grass/weeds. I had really wanted to work the ground, loosen it up and work in the greens, but there is gravel about 2" down from where the drive used to be - at least there should be good drainage there.
Second layer, a 1/2 yard load of top soil from a sales yard. Not the best growing medium, but perfect for holding down the cardboard.
Third layer, I scavenged decayed leaves from several areas of the yard - enough to make a good thick layer, with some twigs mixed in.
Fourth layer (what's done so far), is good soil I'm digging up from around the remains of the roots of a huge hickory tree that came down in my yard several years ago. I've gotten one load spread, about 1/2 a yard, and tomorrow I'm adding another load... but, between the two I'm putting a thin layer of straw to give it some fiber.
The remaining layers will be good compost/manure/soil.

The plan is to have three sections for planting with removable wood plank between them for walking on. I'm going to plant in one section tomorrow, some squash and spinach seedlings I've started. This years spent plants will be worked into the same area - I haven't attempted a compost bin yet.

So, here's what it looks like now:
Any suggestions?

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I'm not sure if Mark has a standard other than "functional" haha. If you've seen his early videos you'll see that he's been slowly building it up over many years. Some of his older beds have now been replaced, so it looks really fancy nowadays. I especially love his gourd tunnel - I hope to create one similar to that in the future.

I honestly think that what you've got looks great! And suggestions would merely be personal preference over anything.
One thing I will mention is; do be careful with using wood for flooring as it can get quite slippery when wet. Oh, and try not to walk in/on your garden beds as it can compact the ground quite a bit.
I think you've got quite a fair grasp on what you're doing. Especially since it sounds like you're fairly new to gardening. You are correct with watching where the sun is. You don't want a tall, bushy crop shading all of the crops behind it out.
 

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Mark has "Goldilocks" standards! :thumbsup: Yes, I've seen those videos, too. Maybe one day my garden will look as nice and tidy as his does now.

Excellent point about the wood getting slippery. I'm going to have to re-think how I'm going to work this area. A fence is a must, so I won't be able to lean over from the outside and will have to get into it from the gated area... I also need the fencing around my fish/frog pond to keep the cat from getting the frogs.
Bad cat! :quiver:
Idk. It'll all come together one of these days.

How about you?
Are you planting other things besides the peas?
 

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One third of the garden is good to go. I've transplanted the zucchini, waiting for the spinach and lettuce sprouts to get a bit bigger before transplanting next to the zucchini.

Waiting for the food. :eat: Lol

Oh, and I solved the "plank" issue, I think, I have more shutters! :twothumbsup:
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I know another member is currently using carboard for flooring as it helps keep the weeds out. I can't recall the post of the top of my head though.

Perhaps I should make a post about how my (messy) potted garden is looking. It's such a rainy day today though, haha.
 

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I know another member is currently using carboard for flooring as it helps keep the weeds out. I can't recall the post of the top of my head though.

Perhaps I should make a post about how my (messy) potted garden is looking. It's such a rainy day today though, haha.
Yes, please do. Would love to see your garden.

I got the cardboard at the local post office, and can get mountains of it. Amazon delivers the small packages in huge boxes, big enough for a small family to live in, every day and it just piles up. They are literally 6' tall and 4' square. Good sturdy corrugated, too.
I was concerned about bugs being able to get through it from the ground below, but I think as long as it stays wet it will be okay.
 

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I'm not sure what bugs you are worried about. I know carboard can attract worms - which are good for the garden.
I wasn't very clear - that's what I meant, I was afraid the cardboard would keep out the good bugs.
 

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Ah fair enough. I wouldn't see why as it's meant for the pathways (if I understood this correctly), so it shouldn't matter to much. But I know it does attract worms, which is a good thing.
I'm actually using cardboard as mulch at the moment and so far so good. I'm guessing that if the layer is dry or too thick it might cause issues, but since I keep the layers 1 or 2 pieces thick and water regularly it seems to be fairing rather well. Perhaps it depens on ones climate, but I haven't heard of anyone having any real issues due to cardboard.
 

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Ah fair enough. I wouldn't see why as it's meant for the pathways (if I understood this correctly), so it shouldn't matter to much. But I know it does attract worms, which is a good thing.
I'm actually using cardboard as mulch at the moment and so far so good. I'm guessing that if the layer is dry or too thick it might cause issues, but since I keep the layers 1 or 2 pieces thick and water regularly it seems to be fairing rather well. Perhaps it depens on ones climate, but I haven't heard of anyone having any real issues due to cardboard.
I used it as a weed barrier at the very bottom of the garden, wall to wall. I've noticed some areas sticking up near the edges are already breaking down, so as you say, it should be all good.
 

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Yeah all good, haha. Though I can imagine you possibly wanting some more permanent solutions.
I'm no expert at that, but I do think I remember a video in which Mark said he regretted using gravel (or any other type of rock), as weeds kept going through and it became somewhat dangerous to mow now.
 

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I know another member is currently using carboard for flooring as it helps keep the weeds out. I can't recall the post of the top of my head though.

Perhaps I should make a post about how my (messy) potted garden is looking. It's such a rainy day today though, haha.

Sounds like a good day for writing....
 

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Sounds like a good day for writing....
Haha, I do actually write as a hobby. Sadly my Word (2016) just lost it's license so I can't use it anymore. I may or may not have still been using the school account we used to have, but that school doesn't exist anymore nowadays. Naughty me, though luckily there wasn't a real limit on how many people could use the account, or I would've likely been automatically logged out.
 

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Haha, I do actually write as a hobby. Sadly my Word (2016) just lost it's license so I can't use it anymore. I may or may not have still been using the school account we used to have, but that school doesn't exist anymore nowadays. Naughty me, though luckily there wasn't a real limit on how many people could use the account, or I would've likely been automatically logged out.
Try this:
I've been using it for years and like it better than the MS office software... and it's free.
 
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