Greeting!

Nick Freeman

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Good day and good morning to all of you!
My names Nick and I'm new to gardening. I've been a fan of Marks for quite a while and finally going ahead with gardening.
Although inside as there is still a foot of snow outside!
I look forward to learning from all of you and sharing the mistakes and success' that are to come!
 
Welcome to the forum @Nick Freeman !

We all have to start somewhere - don't be afraid to ask any questions you may have! I'm sure we can help you along :D

Spring is coming, and the gardening season will begin shortly. One thing I would recommend to grow are herbs! They can zhuz up any dish, and even serve as a garnish! So much fun - and often quite quick to grow.
 
Thanks BOTH of you!
I'll keep an eye out for DThille 's posts.
This is where I stand at the moment.
 

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Not too shabby at all!

You'll notice your seedlings (especially those on the right) look a little bit leggy. Leggy meaning that they grow really long and "stringy". This is often caused by a lack of light. Perhaps they'd love a more sunny location. That or move the growlights closer, it could be that it's too far away.

What do you think @daveb ?
 
Good Morning Nick

Welcome to the group As JP said DThille grow up there in cooler area then even here and where you are but i think its a debate which has higher winds.

So yes seedlings do look a bit Leggy, at this moment a couple questions. Is that a normal florescent light strip? And second can you place plants different with a space under the shorter one to raise them closer to light?

If those are regular Florescent you may be a little low on the amount of light your plants are getting and the distance away from light. I would add more light and more it closer to the seedlings. I use (2) 5000k Led shop light for some plants they are not the ultimate but from seed to full grown easy and cheap so i think you just need to no a little adjust of one more light, and in the 5000 to 6500K light spectrum. the plant Tray at right you have tomatoes started in jiffy pots the whole try with the board and heat mat under it could be raised on 4 more of those green plant pots if you have them raise. Ideal seedlings i keep lights 2 - 4 inches above seedlings just watch that not too close with extreme bight and hot lights.


Below are a couple variations on Led shop lights from home depot. They were used for the seedlings as well as full grown
The left was just a couple wood slats screwed to an old frame they had eyelets on back for chain so i raised and lowered them above the seedlings and later over full grown plant via the chain hooked on a finish nail.
On the right if you look at top i made a simple strip with two cross arms the lights attached to. Support chain attaches to an offset link so it can be rotated to adjust the balance ( tipping of light ) front to back. you will also notice the shorter herb at left is raised up on a platform closer to the height of other plants very important to try to adjust the amount each plant gets this is. the last photo the pots are 2 inch diameter where they sit in lid so you can judge approximate 4 inches tip of some leafs to light. and you can see a retired Florescent grow light leaning in corner i can run dozen Led strips for the cost of that dbl bulb strip
Take a glance over at photo i posted last night for " new crop " post, ideal in a perfect world mine be shorter seedlings


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Thank you daveb!
The photos are inspiring and very helpful!

It's an LED shop light I got from Kent 4000K 5000L. 46 inches for cheaper then some things I was seeing around. But I'm not sure if that's enough?

The windows my largest South facing window just sadly not a lot natural light at the moment.

I took your advice and lifted the herbs up. The few tomatoes and the 2 rows of Jalapeños should like it I hope! Basil to the right. They're all defiantly leggy and before the light they were almost crawling over the ground to the window.
 

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Thank you daveb!
The photos are inspiring and very helpful!

It's an LED shop light I got from Kent 4000K 5000L. 46 inches for cheaper then some things I was seeing around. But I'm not sure if that's enough?

The windows my largest South facing window just sadly not a lot natural light at the moment.

I took your advice and lifted the herbs up. The few tomatoes and the 2 rows of Jalapeños should like it I hope! Basil to the right. They're all defiantly leggy and before the light they were almost crawling over the ground to the window.
Yup your light is way low on horizon still almost same as us here your about another degree and half further north , planting here is still a good 6 weeks away but you have to contend with the cold north Atlantic winds. Go skim my hudroponic articles and various from DT and others here and you will find a huge wealth of information and experience
Ok so if you can find a 5k i would suggest grabbing at least one more. or mix in the 4000k with a couple of this inside the same hood, screw the clips right inside the side of the one you have it will give you light a wider foot print and massive more light - go to Amazon and get the Barrina LED 6500K lights $48.99 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HBT3BVM
 
Thankfully lights are not something that need replacing each and every month. If you look at it in a long term investment, you will see that the cost isn't that much (ecample, you buy a beautiful pot for $100, but it lasts for 20 years. You only paid $5 per year, or so little as $0.42 a month. But had you bought the $30 pot that only lasts 3 years, it was actually $10 a year, or $0.83 a month. But then you would have to buy a new pot again, and again. - assuming my math is correct). So sometimes making an investment is cheaper in the long run. I feel like we sometimes lose track of that perspective (I know I do sometimes).

Grow lights are an amazing investment in colder climates, as it allows you to start much earlier, as you do not have to wait for the outside temperatures to rise to good growing temps. This way you get a longer growing season, possibly year-round. And if you get the hang of it, it can actually pay itself off long-term. We all know how expensive groceries are at the supermarket.
@daveb has frequently showed us that, yes setting up can be a little expensive, but in the long run it pays back. Most expenses are a 1-time thing, other than small replacements and upgrades.

Personally, I splurge on buying quality soil. That has been my main thing why I thought I had a black thumb. Plants would die left and right - just because I didn't know. Then 1 day my partner convinced me to go out and buy a bag of premium potting soil.... I have never looked back. My plants are amazingly healthy, sometimes refusing to die no matter what I throw at them. I've had great successes and so much fun, now that I'm not fighting to keep a plant alive anymore.
And frankly, I'm loving learning something new every day. And I hope you will find the same joy :D
 
Your plants and light aside (everything was said from Mandy and daveb 😁 )
I love your dog😍🥰😍

I had two great danes myself years ago. Miss my gentle giants 😁 But your Rottweiler is also such a beautifful big boy😍
(sorry for that🤣 couldn't help myself when I saw the pic)

Cheers
 
I appreciate all the help!
I've ordered an insane amount of new lights. (Photo) hopefully these are good? The ones you linked too Dave were unavailable.

Lunai thank you! I love my 'little' guy! He's half Rottweiler/ Amstaff pitbull. His names Diesel.
 

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I appreciate all the help!
I've ordered an insane amount of new lights. (Photo) hopefully these are good? The ones you linked too Dave were unavailable.

Lunai thank you! I love my 'little' guy! He's half Rottweiler/ Amstaff pitbull. His names Diesel.
yes those are mentioned as 3 foot in one spot and 4 foot in another either length will do nicely
, the ones i also use are 4 ft but its a huge light output from those as supplemental light. there are clips with screw to attach them dont get crazy tightening them on i had screws i broke mine so replaced them with a flat head pan screw, worst case some panhead bolts and nuts and just make sure the head is low enough to snap the clip on to light into the grooves

go into this area of the site here and you will see numerous posts the starter 1 week later and second harvest
https://www.selfsufficientculture.com/forums/hydroponics/
 
Lights arrived today!
set your other 4000k with 2 of those and set all plants like the tray crosswise on one shelf and it should be enough and give you a good spread on light spectrum. :cool: Was it almost blinding when you turned them on
 
Very much so! And it wad mid day! I'll attach the third light to it tomorrow. But I'm happy to have two shelves now with lights for 4 more. When I can sorce nutrients I'm going to start work on an NFT system.
the only thing you need to source is the master blend if you use like i do, the epsom salt you can buy in grocery store , the calcium nitrate just go to local garden certer and get a good gram scale to weight the nutrients on, the article give a for source with links to amazon
 
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one thing i did forget Nick if you do not want to light up whole house ultra bright goto homedepot and pick up -


or pop down to hunting store and grab a couple of the emergency reflective blankets
 
This is the sad part of living in other countries.. I actually work out of home depot every day, but they don't keep that product in the Canadian chain as far as I can see. But I'll do as you suggest and pick up some emergency blankets. That should also help increase the light the plants are getting?
 
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